tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post2935689975359151324..comments2023-12-27T03:28:14.449-05:00Comments on The Digital Media Machine: LendInk Witch Hunt, Part II: It's gone too far I Lamonthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14681877739319223934noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-70938252172225668862012-08-14T23:42:18.203-04:002012-08-14T23:42:18.203-04:00I enjoyed reading the debate updates, Ian. Thank y...I enjoyed reading the debate updates, Ian. Thank you for continuing the story in true journalistic style. If I can cast my 2 cents into the ring, as to the attacks on authors and bogas 1 star revenge reviews on Amazon:<br /><br />-"He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone..." <br /><br />I think that is the best quote in the world to end it. If people were astute, they would heed the advice and be done with this madness. It's time to heal and rebuild, and beating up authors on Amazon is not going to help Dale rebuild his business. People ought to stop and think about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-4144437457231045702012-08-14T19:33:29.740-04:002012-08-14T19:33:29.740-04:00I linked to this story in a short post on my own w...I linked to this story in a short post on my own website. I scolded the mob and said, yes, there should be consequences. I didn't, and would never, single anyone out or name names. That would be irresponsible, so I chose to only add to the public shaming. They need to have their noses rubbed in it a little, in hopes of preventing a recurrence. You can't "burn down the shop" and walk away scot-free.<br /><br />It's not only this particular mob that's at fault, though. They've been led astray by the farce of Imaginary Property (IP) and the current misguided understanding of copyright.<br /><br />Good luck to Lendink and good luck to the members of the mob who have enough sense to be ashamed of what they did.<br /><br />rjbarjaybehttp://greencomet.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-88364318462067102192012-08-14T19:30:03.543-04:002012-08-14T19:30:03.543-04:00I'm sorry, but consequences are earned. This i...I'm sorry, but consequences are earned. This isn't a 'witch hunt'. You are seeing the marketplace reacting by consumers deciding where they will spend their hard-earned money. The facts are the facts. Certain authors behaved poorly. Why should they be allowed to duck responsibility for their behavior?<br /><br />So the comparison to the original mob action is invalid. This isn't legal action taken by mob mentality...far from it. It is simply people who care about sending a message with their pocketbooks working together to get their facts straight. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-32746680592485442902012-08-14T15:22:03.443-04:002012-08-14T15:22:03.443-04:00I am waiting for the complete evolution of the Ind...I am waiting for the complete evolution of the Indie author. Right now, there are too many people cluttering the industry with inferior work, sloppy writing, elitist attitudes and a sense of self-aggrandization and entitlement. Some of the trash I encounter which is described as being "published" is repulsive. Hopefully situations like LendInk will help to cull the herd of authors who apparently have more time to spend on emotional reactions than learning their craft. People who find the time to cut their own throat, and obnoxiously flaunt their lack of understanding of the written word have no business getting paid as experts of the written word. Hopefully this is another step in the evolution of self publishing, so that authors such as myself may have a fighting chance against those who continuously make the rest of us look bad, either due to bad judgment, or bad writing.Steve Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01106769507452246948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-82238923367370937532012-08-14T03:39:31.414-04:002012-08-14T03:39:31.414-04:00The comment on Kindleboards was mine.
Frankly, if...The comment on Kindleboards was mine.<br /><br />Frankly, if you want to call a well-reasoned argument that the unrepentant authors have done wrong and need to be punished in some way a witch-hunt, then I really hope you're never on the receiving end of the real deal from something like 4chan.<br /><br />I believe my point still stands. They have done wrong, and there is no other viable way for the self-publishing community to punish this wrong other than by knocking their sales with one-star reviews. If there were another way to do it, that would be a better choice, but as it stands none exists that I know of.<br /><br />They face a lot of justified anger for their actions. But, unlike their actions, the anger seems to be rooted in reason and there is more discussion happening now as a result. So something good will come of this at least.<br /><br />Still, I am not going to lose any sleep if the ratings on their books are trashed. I will continue to believe that they deserve every one-star they get for their despicable mob behavior, though I'm not adding any myself. Personal attacks? No. Not acceptable, and I will call out anyone who does so if I see it happening. But, like J.R. says above me, there must be consequences, and the fairest consequences in my view are those that take sales from the mob just as they took sales away from many other authors by destroying LendInk.Claire Ryanhttp://www.raynfall.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-69339859460918618272012-08-13T19:50:03.721-04:002012-08-13T19:50:03.721-04:00Has it gone too far? Yes.
Both sides took it to f...Has it gone too far? Yes.<br /><br />Both sides took it to far. What can you do to stop it? Well some authors have stopped and tried to make amends. Most bloggers do seem to try and take the high road. Commenters? Not so much. You can encourage people to end their vitriol, but its never going to be 100% compliance.<br /><br />Some of these authors made attacks against lendink, do you really expect for some readers not to respond in kind?<br /><br />Who started it? Was it lendink with an outdated site or authors with too little patience? Considering that a few authors were able to confirm the legality when the mess started, I blame the mob authors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-80718014846104241252012-08-13T14:25:18.409-04:002012-08-13T14:25:18.409-04:00"The one who fired abusive comments directed ..."The one who fired abusive comments directed toward me, my books and other writers who were only standing up for their rights, shame on you!"<br /><br />The quote above illustrates the problem. They were not "standing up for their rights". They were clearly in the wrong, and attacked a perfectly legitimate business, and refuse to admit they were wrong.<br /><br />I'm not going to give out one-star reviews to these authors, but I'm not buying their books. Either they are too dim to understand that they were in the wrong, or are too petty to admit it. Neither of these possibilities make me inclined to think that they have anything to say worth reading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-30189042643089475082012-08-13T13:53:04.860-04:002012-08-13T13:53:04.860-04:00JR, this has escalated to personal attacks and rev...JR, this has escalated to personal attacks and revenge reviews. I hope you can agree that these are not appropriate responses.I Lamonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681877739319223934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-24723572875135751012012-08-13T13:23:49.791-04:002012-08-13T13:23:49.791-04:00By the way, what helped bring down LendInk was ign...By the way, what helped bring down LendInk was ignorance and not bothering to check their facts. They mindlessly repeated charges WHICH WERE FALSE. Had it actually been a pirate site, I would not criticise their actions (even though I don't get that excited about piracy).<br /><br />I have seen the posts of everyone I unfollowed on Twitter and who are barred from my blog. I KNOW they did what they are accused of having done.<br /><br />No apologies here. Yes, there SHOULD be consequences for bad actions.J. R. Tomlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109874615059334200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-85686260551376887242012-08-13T13:20:23.009-04:002012-08-13T13:20:23.009-04:00Nonsense. Most of the criticism is of authors who ...Nonsense. Most of the criticism is of authors who are NOT apologizing and since when is doing someone substantial harm righted by a mere apology? Deliberately driving someone out of business is not righted by "criticism".<br /><br />No, a lot of us indie authors are NOT ready to forget the black eye this gave the indie community.<br /><br />Indeed, I am boycotting fellow authors who took part and have not made a sincere apology. And if that bothers you, the problem is yours not mine. <br /><br />What goes around comes around as the saying goes.J. R. Tomlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109874615059334200noreply@blogger.com