tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post3741342590535905785..comments2023-12-27T03:28:14.449-05:00Comments on The Digital Media Machine: The iCloud tax for Mac usersI Lamonthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14681877739319223934noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-9031244837633554522012-05-22T10:07:10.052-04:002012-05-22T10:07:10.052-04:00actually.. its WORSE then this.
I'm a PC guy, ...actually.. its WORSE then this.<br />I'm a PC guy, and I'm converting back to Mac. I just got a used iMac 14" its awesome, except.... i don't have iPhone.<br />my iPad and iPhone each have photostream access, but my imac is left out, YET.. my pc!!!!! happily access my photostream? WTF? Your saying i have to drop another $14 bucks to buy iphoto for Lion to see my photostream?? my friggin crappy PC sees them for FREE!!! C'mon Apple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-60092868097071506822012-03-21T12:22:07.901-04:002012-03-21T12:22:07.901-04:00With MobileMe being killed and my G4 Mac unable to...With MobileMe being killed and my G4 Mac unable to run SnowLeopard, let alone Lion, this kills my MobileMe account, losing everything I have paid for for many years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-86565080891481353852012-01-23T21:57:52.025-05:002012-01-23T21:57:52.025-05:00I have no $ problem with getting Lion (for all the...I have no $ problem with getting Lion (for all the great features, 30 $ seems very affordable). What I CANNOT afford is losing Rosetta. I have too many great and fully functioning software that depend on this feature.<br /><br />My conclusions:<br />- I say no to Lion<br />- I say no to iCloud and will let my MobileMe account disappear on June 30, 2012<br />- I will use the google or dropbox services<br />- Too bad I will have to update my email address (@mac.com) in MANY accounts all around the place. I have to do this very early before June.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-53677952705582220472012-01-16T07:40:10.611-05:002012-01-16T07:40:10.611-05:00I don't want lion because I will then have to ...I don't want lion because I will then have to update protools, but by not getting lion I loose my Mobile me. Why can't Apple keep mobileme operating for people who don't want the icloud thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-17025056472796647432011-10-29T16:16:22.869-04:002011-10-29T16:16:22.869-04:00I can't upgrade to Lion, because I work in rur...I can't upgrade to Lion, because I work in rural areas and the Apple external modem is absolutely necessary in some places. It is 32 bit and will not run on Lion. I also have the Adobe CS Suite I use pretty often and can't afford to lose that right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-36297549555897845962011-10-15T18:05:38.193-04:002011-10-15T18:05:38.193-04:00"That's a bummer if you are still using a..."That's a bummer if you are still using an old PC with XP or earlier versions of Windows"<br /><br />Or not:<br />http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40374191/icloudXP.PNG<br /><br />The lack of XP support is an artificial limitation that Apple implemented in the installer. Took 5 minutes with 7-zip and Orca MSI Editor to remove it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-64668311353866331142011-10-14T12:01:46.128-04:002011-10-14T12:01:46.128-04:00It's funny as hell to hear people go on about ...It's funny as hell to hear people go on about upgrades IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREATEST FINANCIAL DISASTER IN A HUNDRED YRS. ;p Apple is a rich man hanging out with streetfolk in streetclothing. But you will never change what his mind is really thinking about people he attempts to fool into believing he is one of them, living in the same time. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-11503063372236502232011-10-14T04:49:54.012-04:002011-10-14T04:49:54.012-04:00I would find iCloud a real help in keeping my cale...I would find iCloud a real help in keeping my calendar, contacts and reminders in sync, something that most phones do OTA with Windows. And I will stay on Apple products because the pros outweight the cons. But upgrading to Lion means my Adobe Suite is going to be buggy so I'm stuck with SL for a while at most and will have to spend not just on Lion but a new CS6 that works with it.<br /><br />A lot of us are on Macs in the creative industry and have been for long. I agree with the post, core users are being disregarded. It would be very easy for Apple to extend iCloud functionality to a new update of SL and I can't help but feel Apple is trying to push Lion sales regardless of the price. I don't believe iCloud only works with Lion because it was developped in tandem and the technology is too different, it's just OTA sync. Let's just hope the team of talented guys at Apple have not rolled out an icloud-enabled SL update purely because they were too busy with the launch of Lion, iOS 5 and Steve's departure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-80947410630136663022011-10-13T20:27:36.342-04:002011-10-13T20:27:36.342-04:00re: % of Macs w/ Lion installed... Tim Cook said...re: % of Macs w/ Lion installed... Tim Cook said Lion had hit 10% of the Mac installed base in its first TWO WEEKS alone. And 1M units sold its first day (July 20th). Last week he also said Mac install base was now 60M users, so we know 1M 1st day, around 5M more over days 2-14. If sales slowed to 20% of that rate in subsequent 10 weeks, that's still 30% of Mac users that have already upgraded to Lion in its 1st 3 months.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03380145804942443325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-5460750260686246832011-10-13T18:28:36.736-04:002011-10-13T18:28:36.736-04:00Not only that, Apple currently states that Calenda...Not only that, Apple currently states that Calendar sharing will not be supported on iCloud. After hanging with MobileMe for years when finally my partner and I could sync calendars 'bi directionally', now we go 'back in time'. #discouraging #justdoesntworkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-78349406924884366552011-10-13T18:02:36.861-04:002011-10-13T18:02:36.861-04:00Tim Cook said Lion was on 10% of Macs within two w...Tim Cook said Lion was on 10% of Macs within two weeks of release, not total to date. That number is likely much higher now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-89476185308762170072011-10-13T16:21:38.786-04:002011-10-13T16:21:38.786-04:00So how do I sync my iPhone 4 to my MBPro running S...So how do I sync my iPhone 4 to my MBPro running Snow Leopard when MobileMe finally dies? Most of my machines have moved to Lion but I was planning on keeping a couple of my MBs on Snow Leopard. My wife will not be happy when her calendars and address book no longer sync wirelessly. What am I missing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-35013386523965369382011-10-13T16:03:58.546-04:002011-10-13T16:03:58.546-04:00Thanks to everyone for pointing out the error in t...Thanks to everyone for pointing out the error in the cost for Snow Leopard users. Note that it is more if you are using an older version of OSX, as you have to upgrade to Snow Leopard first before moving to Lion.<br /><br />T-Fed: As I pointed out in the blog post, At least half of the owners of Windows machines won't have to upgrade their OS if their owners want to try iCloud, whereas the owners of around 90% of Macs will. But you are right in the sense that the pain for XP users will be greater owing to the higher cost of Windows 7 compared to OS X upgrade costs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-12839615158205064222011-10-13T15:58:40.122-04:002011-10-13T15:58:40.122-04:00Apple doesn't amend their "old" plat...Apple doesn't amend their "old" platforms. Not even with minor features.<br /><br />It's part of a company that looks forward and rarely back. And that always means inconvenience for a number of users. It happens all the time. See PPC support, for example.<br /><br />I strongly believe a little pain here and there benefit the platform and users in the long run. (I still run a Windows XP machine at work, because it was the most painless thing for the IT department. So literally no progress in 10 years.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-24122547615543066322011-10-13T15:57:07.843-04:002011-10-13T15:57:07.843-04:00Your statement that iCloud costs Windows users $0 ...Your statement that iCloud costs Windows users $0 is in conflict with your next statement that XP users are not supported and that half of all users are XP users. Thus your statement should read "half of all Windows users pay nothing while the others must pay at least the minimum cost to upgrading to Windows 7, which is $56 (for Windows Home Professional). Which is $26 more than the cost of upgrading to Lion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-35146515880034845152011-10-13T15:55:00.370-04:002011-10-13T15:55:00.370-04:00What features of icloud are you talking about? I ...What features of icloud are you talking about? I setup icloud and I'm using itune 1.5 on snow Leopard. Just connect you device and select it to turn on the icloud backup feature. Then on the phone go to setting and turn each icloud features as needed. Am I missing something here.Emiliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08726383745413444107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-34664802737357553822011-10-13T15:52:34.965-04:002011-10-13T15:52:34.965-04:00Windows users have to pay, they just pay through t...Windows users have to pay, they just pay through the pain of using Apple products on Windows (remember, the "glass of ice water in hell" comment by Steve Jobs).<br /><br />Seriously though, it seem reasonable to me for Apple to require use of its most current OS version with one of its newest features. While $30.00 is not insignificant, its a reasonable price to pay for being current. I agree don't agree that Lion is "ugly" and whether it is "necessary" is more of a personal decision or judgment.<br /><br /> <br />Mac users and Windows users are simply in different positions when it comes to using Apple products.Shawn J. Robertshttp://www.shawnjroberts.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-48745619771436893402011-10-13T15:51:08.084-04:002011-10-13T15:51:08.084-04:00Is $30 really that bad for an OS upgrade? Especial...Is $30 really that bad for an OS upgrade? Especially one that can be purchased once and installed on all of your machines? Windows is much more expensive.<br /><br />I've been using Lion for a few weeks now and I don't find it "ugly" or "unnecessary." Also, Gizmodo probably isn't the first place I'd go to read unbiased writing about Apple.Toryhttp://torybriggs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-40490955628006850282011-10-13T15:42:03.312-04:002011-10-13T15:42:03.312-04:00Either way, a Mac or Windows user has to be on the...Either way, a Mac or Windows user has to be on the most recent version of the OS. I don't see this as an issue.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-19532405413651752072011-10-13T15:32:52.767-04:002011-10-13T15:32:52.767-04:00I really find this article to be misleading. Apple...I really find this article to be misleading. Apple is not forcing you to use iCloud in any capacity. Not only that, but making a statement like "Windows users get it for free" is ridiculous at best. First off, Windows iCloud Control Panel application provides a VERY minimal iCloud experience when compared to what you get with Lion. In addition, you state that Apple is requiring you to upgrade to get new features of the new OS. Apply that same logic on the Windows side of your comments. I have a Windows XP computer... can I use iCloud? No! Oh wait, now I have to upgrade to a newer version of Windows. The cost to me? Over $100 easily for Windows 7. Lion will only cost you $29 and provides some very nice features. Will you use all of them? Probably not, but upgrades are upgrades and people tend to keep moving forward.<br /><br />Bottom line, you do not HAVE to use iCloud for ANYTHING. If you want to use new and great functionality, then you need to upgrade to the latest supported platform. Heck, you weren't *forced* to upgrade to iOS 5 either... you made that choice.T-Fedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14394661869911426809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-15456077015212241182011-10-13T15:30:51.776-04:002011-10-13T15:30:51.776-04:00It's a huge bummer. Some of us would not mind ...It's a huge bummer. Some of us would not mind upgrading to Lion, but we have perfectly good working MacBooks that do not allows us to do so. My MacBook has the "intel core duo" instead of the "intel 2 core duo," so an upgrade to Lion is not possible. I have Snow Leopard on my Mac, an iphone, Apple TV, and an ipad 2. For me, a full functioning iCloud is useless and not possible; but my wife who has an iphone and Windows 7 machine, it's great! Seems weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-10769930771655868472011-10-13T15:27:16.218-04:002011-10-13T15:27:16.218-04:00Windows doesn't have iCal, iPhoto, Aperture, a...Windows doesn't have iCal, iPhoto, Aperture, and the Mac Address Book. Those are what you're really using iCloud for. With Windows you are restricted to using the web based interfaces for iCloud.Joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-26599991534457088002011-10-13T15:24:32.288-04:002011-10-13T15:24:32.288-04:00It seems like you are hinging your problem on the ...It seems like you are hinging your problem on the fact that you don't have Lion, and shouldn't for iCloud...am I correct? Well the issue IS that both technologies were developed in tandem with each other. Many of the features that iCloud "gives" to it's core stem from data hooks built into Lion, not SL.<br /><br />Let's look at this from another angle. you are a cofounder of something correct? Well how much is 1 hour of your time worth? How much did you spend on this post. My guess: you spent more money on this post than on what it costs to bring your Apple computer up-to-date.bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17331349084237600387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-85147618918418458502011-10-13T15:24:08.409-04:002011-10-13T15:24:08.409-04:00I agree. Although, I believe that Apple stated at...I agree. Although, I believe that Apple stated at one point that Snow Leopard users would be able to use iCloud. Perhaps with all the other releases they've done lately they couldn't get this completed for the launch. I will be upset if they don't ever fulfill the Snow Leopard promise. I have several legacy programs that FORCE ME not to upgrade to Lion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2777656500523021227.post-81006115137210772272011-10-13T15:23:06.079-04:002011-10-13T15:23:06.079-04:00In the past you had to pay for Mobile Me for prett...In the past you had to pay for Mobile Me for pretty much almost the same functionality as iCloud...so I'm not sure you have a point. And even without upgrading to Lion, iCloud will still work across your iOS devices. This is a nice way to get some clicks to your blog though.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13307996925078819120noreply@blogger.com